How to Find Clarity And Skyrocket Your Returns Through Branding

Summary

Thousands of businesses waste their precious marketing and advertising dollars by hiring those all-talk, no-action digital agencies – with little-to-no experience that fail to help businesses stand out and build an emotional connection with their audience.

We’re doing something different for this episode. Brandon, the founder of My Product Developer, is a Change Creator Brand Studio client. We worked on his brand strategy, rebranded his site and he’s now in our Brand Accelerator.

My Product Developer is a product development firm that focuses on mechanically engineered devices. Brandon and his team focus on rapid prototyping, building highly functional products, followed by shifting their focus on the aesthetics of the product.

Now, you get to hear firsthand about the challenges he was facing, why he took these steps with us and had his first $30,000 month.

Brandon comes from a family of rocket scientists and has a service business that creates incredible market-ready prototypes. It was a really interesting journey working through the brand strategy, identity, and site development.

Brandon joined the Air Force as a mechanic and holds a massive eight years of experience working on engines, hydraulics, diesel’s electric system, AC, and more.

Despite being a part of the family of rocket scientists, Brandon didn’t take the normal route – he didn’t study as an engineer – however, his deep expertise and years of experience allow him to build exceptional, highly functional, and aesthetically pleasing prototypes.

During This Episode, We Discussed:

It was a great experience chatting with Brandon and some of the points we discussed throughout the episode are:

What is Brandon’s “My Product Developer” firm all about?
Brandon’s backstory – diving deep into his experience and rise to entrepreneurship
Brandon’s rise to entrepreneurship
Impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on Brandon’s business
Marketing and advertising challenges faced by Brandon
Brandon’s poor experience with PPC and marketing agencies
How Brandon landed his two high-ticket biggest clients after a month or two of collaborating with Adam Force?
Why is it critically important to find a marketing and branding executive that not only knows how to get the job done but also is someone who you vibe with?
How can investing in branding turn out to be a revolutionary move for your business?
Brandon’s client’s experience with prototyping
Brandon’s focus on not only building a prototype but building an actual end-to-end product that delivers value.
Brandon’s three pillars to building a profitable product
The importance of marketing
From idea to a profitable end-product: What Brandon’s End-to-End process looks like?

Final Thoughts

Sitting down with Brandon was truly epic. Brandon’s rise to entrepreneurship is an incredible story and I loved every single second of our conversation.

Every week I virtually sit down with a marketing expert, entrepreneurs with incredible stories like Brandon, and social entrepreneurs to deliver valuable insights to every single one of you.

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Episode Transcript

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Adam G. Force 0:00
How do social entrepreneurs and small businesses create an authentic brand people love so they can get the edge they need to stand out, create Predictable Revenue and compete against the big guys. That’s what we’re here to discuss. I’m Adam forest, the founder of change crater. And this is the authentic brand mastery podcast.

Adam G. Force 0:33
All right, what’s going on everybody? Welcome back to the show. This is your host, Adam forest. So listen, we’re gonna be doing something a little bit different today. And I’m excited about it. So we’re going to test the waters here, we might do more and more of these types of episodes. Before I let you know what that is. Just a reminder that last week, we talked about really taking some steps to kind of blow up your e commerce sales, we get a lot of we’ve been getting more and more ecommerce brands coming to us to help build their brands to rebrand to really set up their websites more professionally, with a focus on really building trust into their their strategy and increasing sales. So one of our clients had up to a 70% increase in their average cart. So value, so really good stuff. So we’re all about support in the e commerce world. And so today, we’re going to do something a little different, as I mentioned, and we’re bringing on one of the brand studios, our brand studios clients. Alright, so his name is Brandon. And he is the founder of my product developer. He comes from a family of rocket scientists, and he does incredible prototyping, okay, now we’re going to talk to his talk to him about his experience, why he was doing what he was doing, why he started working with us why he wanted to develop his brand. The idea here is to give you some relatable insights from people who are building their brands up in the same way as you might be as you listen to this. And so you can hear from them and their experience and all that kind of stuff. So I think there could be a lot of value there. That’s very relatable. And so that’s why we’re going to start bringing on some of these clients so that you can hear from them firsthand. Now one of the things that I don’t talk about much up front, for our brand studio, and we have one spot open right now. So if you’re looking to really lean into some of your next steps, they’re making a call with us. But one of the things they don’t talk about much and we just added to our services page is the brand accelerator. So what we’ve done now is that when you do work with us, and we’ll talk about this on the strategy call, you’re automatically enrolled into a brand accelerator. Alright. And there’s a small group of entrepreneurs, you know, we keep it very small. And you we have regular discussions on different strategies, you get to ask a lot of questions. And people work together, we have some of these guys in the group, they work together and they do different things. And there’s just a ton of value that we’re seeing. So we’re kind of pushing that a little bit more, because the results and the value that come out of it, right. So this was something we did beta test on, and it worked out really well. So I’m excited about the brand accelerator, we’ll see where we take that next. But right now, that is part of this process. So something that you guys can get a lot of value out of let’s dive into this conversation with Brandon, don’t forget to stop by the iTunes Store, leave us a five star review, guys, we appreciate that sport. And it goes a real long way to help push the show forward. So just take two minutes in the app there. And you can just scroll down and you just leave a review. And we appreciate you. So thank you so much. And we’re gonna dive into it right now let’s do this. Okay, show me the heat. Brandon, What’s up, buddy? Welcome to the show today. How are you doing?

Brandon Manusov 3:37
I’m doing great. I’m happy to be here.

Adam G. Force 3:39
I’m excited to have you here too. This is a little bit of a new approach here. I’m excited to kind of chat a little more in depth and kind of share with people your experiences and building your brand and go what the prototyping world looks like and how things have been progressing. So what I like to do in the beginning of these discussions is give people a little bit of background. So in a nutshell, tell us a little bit about what’s exciting, you know, with my product developer today, what’s going on, like the big, big stuff. And then how did you get there? Like, why are we doing this little backstory?

Brandon Manusov 4:14
Yeah, so we are a product development firm that focuses on mechanically engineered devices. We focus on the rapid prototyping and making things really functional first, and then aesthetically pleasing. So our main thing is making really unique designs, the medical field and consumer hand tools, stuff like that real specialized stuff. how we got started was I’ve been just a tinkerer my whole life, since I remember literally like five years old, playing in the garage with my dad. He was an engineer for NASA. So basically just just read an engineer, you know goal isn’t one of the leading engineers in the country was what I want to hit engineers aerospace for the last 4050 years. One of the entre actually did the first four satellites as part of that program for the Air Force, mean engine on the F 16. And from there, they just got bigger and crazier last time, he does his top secret. So I can’t really I don’t really know what he does now, or what he did in the last few years of his life. But starting out, he really killed it. So

Adam G. Force 5:31
yeah.

Brandon Manusov 5:33
Yeah. And then. So I joined the Air Force, I was a mechanic in the Air Force for eight years work on everything current engines, hydraulics, diesel’s electric system, AC. So I’ve got a really good understanding of how everything works in that in the real world practical applications. And that’s just textbook. Yeah, so that was I think that kind of sets me apart. Then went to school, when I got out and say, entrepreneurship, as well as prototyping, Human Centered Design, how to design things that work for people. So I’m not like I don’t I didn’t take the normal route. I didn’t study as an engineer, but I was, I just always been doing it. And when I work, I mean, I’ve worked with some of the leading engineers in the world, I want to be one of them. Another guy that was the head engineer on the F 22. project. And I never felt or never feel that I’m like, behind the curve here. And it’s just like, a weird thing to like, jump into that kind of scenario and be like, yeah, like, this is cool. We can just we can go designers, and when you’re on a jet is fine. And it works. You know, and you know, it’s just like, it’s just cool. That’s, I really enjoy it. It’s just been really exciting. My biggest challenge has been the marketing though, like, you know, having a conversation with somebody, it’s easy to show my excitement, it’s easy to say, you know, show them how to solve the problem, but trying to get across in a few seconds. Or the brand has been a real struggle over the last several years. So I’m really glad we got a chance to work together on that.

Adam G. Force 7:09
Yeah, no, I mean, you have an incredible background. And when you told me that you had a family of like rocket scientists, that’s like one of those things that people say, but you don’t really meet too many people who have family members who actually were so you know, it looks like engineering is in your blood, right? You kind of grew up, you’re surrounded by it, which means you learn a lot about it. And I can see why. You know, it’s such an exciting craft, right to make something from nothing, take new ideas and bring them to life. But, you know, like, as we work together, one of the things that was really fascinating is just kind of digging into, you know, where are we really putting our attention? And what’s the big picture look like, of why we’re doing this. And there’s so much impact on the world of you know, when we are improving someone’s life because of this new prototype that becomes market ready. And it actually helps people, right. So especially in the medical space, like we talked about, and in the conch contractor space, because of the work that they do. So I guess I’m curious on a little bit of like, when you started, when you came out of the Air Force, that’s when you started the business, right?

Brandon Manusov 8:20
No, I started when I was in college, and I was getting a minor in this prototyping thing. I really, I really grew myself as an entrepreneur before one right at college and started a few other companies. And when I was there, they started recommending for these, like really big projects in the medical field, the universities are recommending it as like their leading expert on 3d printing and some other things. And I was like, wow, that’s like, there’s a first time i was really referred to as an expert, anything. And my professors were asking me, like, how do you know this stuff? You know, like, I don’t know how you’re doing this, you know, I’m like, I just experienced, you know, I’ve been doing it my whole life. And I, just the last few years when I’m in college, but literally, like, my whole life. So it’s really interesting when the professors start asking me questions like what, you know, and then we’re getting referred to work with some leading researchers around the world. So I liked that point. I was like, Okay, I should probably probably see where this goes. And I just started profile online and started getting contacted and got more and more projects. And when started becoming a side, just some extra side cash involved into the business that is today and we changed names and some other things and changed focus as we grew from partners. But yeah, that’s how I got started.

Adam G. Force 9:44
School. Yeah, and I know like a lot of people listening will find themselves in a predicament where they want to pursue this world of entrepreneurship, but they don’t really know what they want to do. But just looking at your path, and we’ll we’ll get into present day in a second. You kind of like leaned into what you were, what was kind of like part of who you are. It’s kind of your truth, right? Like you grew up as this engineer, you did it in the Air Force you were you saw people like talking to your professors talking to you about it and recognizing a talent in college. And then you tested the water. So you kind of like, I always talk to people, right? When we before we ever work together about getting proof of concept. And so you were getting proof of concept, whether you would call it that or not. At that time, it was still showing you that there’s money to be made. And it’s actually helping people, right. So there’s something there, which kind of says, Hey, well, what can we do to do more of this? And I know, COVID was a factor for you before you reached out to me. And so maybe you could tell people just a little bit about that experience. And, you know, I know sometimes people like they get stuck thinking like, well, is it the right time for me to take a step and invest in my business like this? And what does it actually mean to my business? And I liked him to get a sense of like, where you were, and what inspired you?

Brandon Manusov 11:11
Yeah, so it’s actually really interesting, again, and COVID was actually really beneficial for me, because everyone was freaking out wanting new products co related. So at the beginning, I actually had a big spike, and then it just dropped off because the economy started to sink and slow down on their spending, and they’re just harder and harder to get clients. I actually started traveling to South America during that time, or like, near the end, just because while I already planned on doing this, but also, lower cost of living helped me kind of have some extra cash to reinvest back into the company. And I knew like, it’s something I needed to do, because it was going from like, making maybe like 85 8000 a month, down to two $3,000 a month. You know, and, of course, bigger amounts and smaller amounts, but right. So yeah, it was like pre us, like, you know, my savings are starting to dwindle. And I was like I gotta figure out another process. Because at first my thought was, I’ll just wait this out, it’s going to bounce back. But, you know, seven, eight months into it nine months a year.

Adam G. Force 12:27
Looking back on okay. With that feeling, dude.

Brandon Manusov 12:32
So following. So I, you are not the first person I worked with a couple years ago, I worked with a company, they were top rated top 3% rating from Google. I don’t know where how that comes about. But their PPC company, you know, well, we got this downward, your pay per click for anyone that doesn’t know. And they guarantee three times return or money back. They didn’t do anything. I didn’t get my money back. Yeah. I mean, literally got two leads, neither of them answered the landing page. It just looked terrible. I didn’t say much. Because my thought is, these guys are the experts. I have no idea what works. So right, I’m just gonna let him do the thing. And they I don’t know, which is really not a great experience. It has always kind of burned. I didn’t do any for two years with hiring people just like that was such a bad experience. And I never had like a lot of extra cash. And so like when I invest cash, I need to feel confidence

Brandon Manusov 13:30
to come back to me. And then I was like, Well, okay, I tried to maybe coming up with super cheap, just because you have low risk.

Brandon Manusov 13:46
I just started going through these guys. So I find something again, I don’t even I didn’t have really Yeah, I just didn’t see anything coming out of it. Maybe they’re doing some on the back end, I don’t understand and feel Tony’s more time. But just talking to him. I just didn’t get a feel they really understood what I was looking for. And they didn’t understand my company and our positioning at all. And like trying to have that conversation with them just didn’t exist. Went to a cheaper company in the US. Again, same kind of thing. They were gonna ask me on my website, they have the phone number in the corner and a copyright and they’re like, we optimize it for you and let’s do it. I’m like, did you so then I was like, I need to finish the month out with them. I was just like, again, I didn’t feel like they were understanding what the direction or the image I wanted the company to portray. Right, right. Um, I think that’s when I found you. Yeah, I think I was still actually working with this other company. And that’s why I didn’t even finish it. I was like, I just wanted to do something that’s gonna work and I don’t want to waste my time just testing the waters. I have a bad feeling already. And again, maybe those things would have worked out I stuck around but I just didn’t get a good feeling and I just Yeah, those initial feelings. You is totally different, you just like, started talking about the why and the how, and you know who my ideal clientele is and what I wanted to portray and what I wanted and like, Okay, this is what I want. And when I was looking for you, I don’t know exactly how I found you. But I stopped looking for like a PPC or marketing guy just was like testing to find strategy, because obviously the guys aren’t doing it. So that changed, like my focus. And I don’t know, we just had conversation, I felt super comfortable. I don’t even remember what the conversation was, I just remember being like, this guy gets what I’m trying to do, maybe even more, kind of almost more than what I understand. But I need, I felt really good about it. It was a little over what I was expecting to pay, or what I was looking to pay, but I’m glad I did it. So very happy with where we ended up. And then why we’re working. I don’t know, like, I can’t say like it was one thing or the other. But just having a clear image and direction, I landed my next two biggest clients that first month. So I did like $30,000 within I don’t know, a month or two of starting with you. So that was a pretty cool,

Adam G. Force 16:14
but this is I love I love hearing that kind of stuff. And yeah, there’s a lot of variables that can come into play. But it’s interesting, because you know, when you’re going through stressful times in business, like the COVID year for you, right? The eight, nine months, 10 months go by, and you’re like trying to ride it out or try some cheaper, you know, teams that might support you, and it’s like, you burn money. When you don’t, then all of a sudden you don’t have the income. And it’s like even more. It’s even scarier to then invest in yourself, because now you’re holding back saying, I’ll wait till I’m more successful, meaning make more money, then I’ll invest myself. But to become more successful, we have to sometimes step up and like break through. And the thing that I’ve seen happen with multiple people now who have done that, is they finally realize all right, I got to take this step into your point, though, it’s like you kind of find the right person that you vibe with. And that makes sense. Otherwise, yeah, it’s, you know, it’s, it may not work out. But when you do you, you open yourself up to have perspective shifts, see your business differently, manage your conversations on sales calls differently, and you your confidence starts shifting. And it’s not just about the technical work that we do, but it’s about how you’re now clearly seeing the business. And you can position yourself and make those sales and things like that. So I, you know, whatever the cause may be, you opened yourself up to by investing and you know, the universe basically responds, right,

Brandon Manusov 17:47
I think that’s related. And again, I can’t say it was one thing or the other, but I definitely think those two things probably wouldn’t have happened. Like, I might have landed this client, but I probably would have brought them in as much smaller projects, you know?

Adam G. Force 18:01
Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

Brandon Manusov 18:04
The whole thing together, like really? Yeah, she’s like, oh, here’s my value here, like this is exactly charges for those.

Adam G. Force 18:11
Absolutely. And it’s gonna keep going up. I mean, I had people too, who joined our program, captivate, you know, last year or whatever. And, you know, within a week, like they were so stressed out, they’re like, well, I can’t invest this, you know, few $1,000 to do this right now. And then he’s like, I remember this story from India where his mentor was because he’s a meditation coach and stuff. And he’s like, he used to teach me that I have to let go, when you let go of things, you can make room for more to come back to you. And so he’s like, I decided to just invest. And then a week and a half to two weeks after he made, he closed seven deals in a row and doubled his prices. And that was just because of a couple conversations where it’s like, hey, let’s set the record straight. Like, how should you be pricing? Can you do this? And you know, just all of a sudden, those little nudges can make significant changes, you know what I mean? Yeah, so it’s pretty, pretty cool to see that stuff happen. So, um, so you decided to you know, rebrand, and now you’re up and you’re live. And so what are you working on now? Like, what’s next for you that you’re, you’re up and running, and you kind of got this new vision.

Brandon Manusov 19:18
So now the next thing is, I’ve been buying my leads since I started this company. I’ve never really had, yeah, I’ve never really been successful with these PVC like I was talking about in the past. So now I need to work on finding a partner to drive traffic to my site. Or we’re like currently talking about moving forward on something of that nature. But yeah, that’s kind of where I’m at now. After closing outflows projects. I didn’t take about a week off this last week. So kind of regather myself. I was working pretty hard, awesome vacation photos. I think yeah. So last week is pretty chill. But yeah, I have a few other products I’m also working on, I always have multiple products ran at a time. But yeah, my next thing is really a focus on finding the right partner to drive traffic to my sight. And there’s a lot of different ways to do that. Yeah, yeah. So

Adam G. Force 20:22
okay. And tell me a little bit about, you know, so I guess I’m curious about maybe a client experience and that you’ve had with prototyping anything cool that you can share just from past or precedent or whatever?

Brandon Manusov 20:37
Yeah, so one of my favorite stories happened a few months ago, it was this girl in college, she wanted to make these frames, they should call them flex frames. And she wanted a frame that was universal for different lenses. Okay, she spoke to several different engineers and firms, and they all just told her it was impossible. I and I was just like, Whoa, like, I don’t think we’re in the office when I first try. But I just have so you know, we can we can, you know, play around, find some that will work.

So we made, essentially was a silicone rubber ish elastic band that would fit around each each lens, but it also use utilize the lens as the frame. So when you put the lens in, it gets like a structure. And our first go, where it’s not perfect, but it’s pretty close to Margaret ready. So I was like, really cool turn of events. We did it relatively quick. It took us like a week to build a prototype. Actually, we did another three hour session, I believe. I’ll quit go. And then we had the prototype made. So yeah, within like two weeks, she has a prototype in her hands, feeling it out, testing it, giving me feedback. Now she’s going to raise some more capital. So we can we can finish the restaurants to be more investors in for for manufacturing, so Okay, that’s where she’s at. But yeah, it’s like she has something that she can go and show investors now. And she has something that she can, you know, look at and say, Okay, well, maybe we can tweak this and that, but now she has a really strong song, part, this point to start, and you know, she can make improvements. I don’t ever think that anything you do, whether it’s marketing, or design or like is ever, like really perfect or done. But at some point, you say, Okay, this is a minimal viable product, MVP, and it’s good enough to go to market. And she’s really close, which is the one go at this. So that’s part

Adam G. Force 22:49
of what you do, though, like you’ve defined part of how you operate as trying to bring things together market ready, right? Like you always have the end game in mind. Which means that you really refine things even right out of the gate.

Brandon Manusov 23:04
Sure. So when I design something we’re looking at, okay, why are we doing this? Who are we doing this for? What are they going to need? But then we also are looking at? How are you going to manufacture it? How are you going to package it? How is it going to get to the consumer? You know, do you have a marketing plan, like having partners like you that I can refer people out to, you know, to help create that marketing plan and marketing strategy. You have attorneys on hand, domain legal entities, so a lot of other services as well. But we try to, we try to build relationships with all the people that my clients are going to need. So that we never just say, okay, you get to figure the rest out. Good luck, right. And I focus it around these three pillars. So you have the product or service for us, we’re pretty much building products. Then you have the logistics, which is kind of a catch all essence. But then you have the audience. So logistics is how you’re getting things, hire the mechanics behind everything, essentially. And then the audience is going to consist of your, your marketing, your, your branding, your marketing, your sales and any other communication image that you have with that client.

Adam G. Force 24:18
Okay, yeah, I love it. Yeah, I mean, that’s a pretty cool story, too. I think it’s relatable for people here. And they might be wondering, well, when is it appropriate to consider a prototype? And, you know, maybe she got these flex frames put together for eyeglasses, and if she got the prototype, she can I mean, that’s actually really great for getting consumer feedback as well right. So yes, investors, but now you have a tangible thing. You can show people you can get feedback, you can even run Kickstarter campaigns and things like that to really highlight it and see Do I have something because Kickstarter has become a way to almost do product market validation in a sense, so like, are probably validation, because you can see is are people excited about this or not?

Brandon Manusov 25:04
Yeah, we recommend people do Kickstarters as well as build full websites and sell the product. And then we basically do pre sales, but we encourage them to, well, you can either do pre sales, or you can do, hey, we’re out of stock, you know, willy nilly. So as soon as people are clicking to the credit card page, that’s what we say, you can define that as a sale. So someone looks at it. But now when they say, okay, purchase, and then you give them the messaging, click that with their email notifying when you’re actually raised. So that’s a really good way to prove it out before you some of these molds can be 10 to over 100k. Sam go to quarter million. So, you know, you want to before you start investing that kind of money, even if you have that money, like why just throw it out there, you want to have a proof of concept?

Adam G. Force 25:59
Of course, yeah. And that just goes for anything digital tangible, we always need to make sure that we actually have something that’s sellable. And you know, it goes to the classic, minimum viable product. So people they put Minimum Viable in front of everything now, minimum viable courses, minimum viable product, minimum viable service. You know, but, you know, I what I appreciate about how you approach things is the the strategic experience that you bring to the table to make something market ready, but also not just money grabbing in the sense of Yeah, let’s spend, you know, 20k, when maybe you might say, well, you’re not ready for that yet. Let’s do something for 5k. And make sure it’s, there’s a fit in the market. Right, right. So that saves people a lot of headaches, and then you can work with him through each step of the way. So entrepreneurs out there when you have a unique idea, I mean, a lot of times we tried to go to China or Alibaba, find a product, sell it, that’s great. But there’s scenarios where you’re bringing something very unique and to disrupt a market, right? So if you’re going to disrupt the market, you don’t just go to Alibaba?

Brandon Manusov 27:08
No, it’s two totally different things. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with like the Amazon FBA model, I think it’s a great way. But we do, it’s very different. We’re looking for people that typically have thought of an idea for an extended period of time, they thoroughly understand their problem, if nothing else, a lot of people come to me, and they’re like, hey, I’ve been thinking about creating a new whatever for the past decade.

And I really know exactly, and they really thought it through. Typically, even people like engineers I worked with that have 1020 years of experience, when you start to build it together, we’ll find other things that you know, are just hard to see when you have it on your head. So we start to lay it out. And then we can tweak and improve on those ideas. But we like to have people that have like a well thought out either problem or idea.

Recently, I had a medical surgeon come to me, again, I can’t go into too much detail. But same kind of thing. He had a really defined problem with the medical equipment that he has to work with, and how it’s impacting negatively on the client or on the patient’s lifestyle. And he knows he wants to make it better. But he doesn’t actually know what the solution is yet. And that’s something that I really, I think that’s the most important part of the product design is really understanding the strategy upfront of like, how we’re going to solve the problem. Yeah, once you know, like, okay, we need to make a wheel, any engineer can design a will, right? You know, he’s a spin, but maybe there’s a better way, maybe like a paddle or something’s gonna work better, or a piston or something in that place. So really having the strategy of the function, and we can just do tests like we do, we work with people as little as three hours at a time to do like, hey, let’s just design this component, see if it’s gonna work, just isolate that one part that we’re not sure about before we invest in the whole design and build on anything else around it.

Adam G. Force 29:08
Right? Yeah. And I think that’s important. So, you know, for anybody that is, you know, listening, and you’re like, Oh, I have this great idea. I want to prototype but you’ve been afraid because, oh, it’s such a big process, or it’s expensive. How do you work with certain people? You know, on the smaller budget, I know you have the rapid prototyping and maybe there’s some lighter touch points, like you’re talking about to kind of test the waters a little bit. How does that play out? Yeah, so

Brandon Manusov 29:36
I like to. We like to work with like, least or like a minimum of like 600 bucks. That gives you three hours of us to work together in Russia designed together digitally, like through a virtual meeting. At the end of it, you can take that file, we can have a 3d printed typically or we have machines that I work with Depends on what the application is. And that gives you something that you can work with now, I mean, it’s not going to solve, you know, we’re not going to build an airplane in three hours. But if there’s a component, or there’s something that we’re trying to figure out how it works, I have one client, he, he’s aware of the challenge, but he is wants to make a patch duration motion machine, which, for any of you that have, say, physics, it’s considered impossible. And you know, it, like he wants me to build certain geometries. And we work together on that, and we do it in small chunks. And that’s, it’s just a fun project for him to play with. So I have all kinds of products that we do, but I really like to stay on things that we’re working on the function and how it’s going to relate. And, you know, if you have another type of product, I have other professionals that we can refer you to to help if you’re trying to make like a sculpture or something like that. I’m not your guy, but I know lots of people that can do those things. Yeah, so sorry, back to the question. Yeah, we can start in bite sized chunks of development and proof of concept, so that you’re not investing, you know, in the entire development of a project at once. can be quite a

Adam G. Force 31:22
lot. Right? Right. Okay, so you build confidence as you go, because you’re validating steps each way. So, you know, it’s worth just having that strategy call and seeing where you land and stuff like that. So, um, I think so I want to be respectful of your time and everybody listening. So I think we’ll wrap up and I appreciate you sharing your story about you know, just kind of where you’re coming from how you worked with me and stuff like that. And kind of how you work as a prototyping professional. So anybody listening if that’s in your space, then Brandon’s definitely a go to guy and knows what he’s doing. So Brandon, where can people find you to learn more and check out the rebrand of your new website and everything that you got going on?

Brandon Manusov 32:06
Yeah, the best way to reach out to me is on my product developer calm it’s my product singular developer calm and go ahead and book a 15 minute strategy call with me we’ll we’ll get an introduction I’ll you know I want to really understand and try to get a it’s an information about you and and your problem. And we’ll give you some feedback even if you don’t work on us on how we can you know, maybe improve that a little bit or you know, give me some direction to where to go if we’re not a good fit.

Adam G. Force 32:39
Perfect. Appreciate your time today Brandon. Lot of fun. Thanks for tuning into the authentic brand mastery podcast. Don’t forget to stop by Change Creator calm for more information fresh and articles content and our services if you’re looking to build a brand that people love, and please stop by iTunes, leave us a five star review. We appreciate your support.